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 Post subject: Pentti Linkola
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:22 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Pentti Linkola
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I really like some of his ideas, but some i really dont. He seems to think our problems would be solved by the total control of everyones lives by a dictatorship, though how anyone could wish for that i dont know. Instead of advocating birth control and eugenics he should be advocating the collapse of capitalism and let nature take care of the weak and excess population.


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 Post subject: Re: Pentti Linkola
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I couldn’t agree with Nick more. I appreciate Linkola’s love of nature but not his misanthrope. If there is one primary lesson to be learned from the last century, it is that you can not mend or atone for the damages caused by past violence, control and exploitation with more violence, control and exploitation.

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 Post subject: Re: Pentti Linkola
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Rodney wrote:
I couldn’t agree with Nick more. I appreciate Linkola’s love of nature but not his misanthrope. If there is one primary lesson to be learned from the last century, it is that you can not mend or atone for the damages caused by past violence, control and exploitation with more violence, control and exploitation.



Great philosophers are rarely any good at political activism. People have generally one area they excel at. Linkola's area of expertise is ecology and the Environment, perhaps he should stop trying to extend his ecological expertise into political philosophy? Because he is not good at it. How is a global government dictating who can and can not have kids any better a situation than the NWO we have now?

As i said, he'd be better off advocating the collapse of western civilisation in which a period of chaos and anarchy would follow, in which time large chunks of the worlds excess population will be sorted out (as Troy Southgate has written on).

With no Western aid to feed the Third World, hundreds of millions, if not billions, will perish.


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 Post subject: Re: Pentti Linkola
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In advocating an eco-dictatorship, Linkola's ignoring two basic facts:
1. Dictatorships almost always abandon their original ideals in order to maintain their power.
2. Centralised political systems tend to be more ecologically destructive than decentralised ones.

I think Linkola's ideas are brought on from absolute despair; a state easy to arrive at when viewing the merciless destruction of the Earth's ecosystems by legions of rapacious humanoids.


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 Post subject: Re: Pentti Linkola
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Radian_Born wrote:
In advocating an eco-dictatorship, Linkola's ignoring two basic facts:
1. Dictatorships almost always abandon their original ideals in order to maintain their power.
2. Centralised political systems tend to be more ecologically destructive than decentralised ones.

I think Linkola's ideas are brought on from absolute despair; a state easy to arrive at when viewing the merciless destruction of the Earth's ecosystems by legions of rapacious humanoids.

I doubt a dictator is going to want to see large scale famine and widespread population loss. For example, ever met a farmer that wanted all his cattle and sheep to starve to death?

Dictators need the human resources to feed their own prosperity and power. They don't want to wipe out the population that provides them with their lavish feasts and riches.

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